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WillCAD · 12-28-2003, 03:43 PM

MichelleC, thanks for the complimets. I have indeed thought of sending those sentiments to WDW management, but haven't gotten around to it. When I do, I think I'll probably send them by snail mail directly to the office of the president of WDW, whose name I think is Al Wiess.

Goofy62, I think you should re-read your post; there are a few things in it that don't make sense to me, and I think maybe you just didn't express your feelings acurately.

Remember that people pitch garbage on the ground everywhere. In the past, WDW had a huge army of CMs whose job it was to police the grounds and keep them squeaky clean. In the past few years, that army of custodial CMs has been reduced greatly in number, making it impossible for those who remain to keep up with the volume of garbage hitting the ground on a daily basis. It's not that there are more sloppy Guests these days, it's just that there are fewer custodial CMs to clean up the place.

While I agree that throwing trash on the ground instead of walking the 30 feet to the next trash can is a sign of a sloppy, rude, careless, and unthinking Guest, I don't agree that it's entirely the Guests' problem. There are CMs who are employed specifically to keep the grounds clean, and it is thier responsibility to pick up after the rude Guests. However, since thier ranks have been decimated by recent cutbacks, they are simply overwhelmed and can't possibly do the job as well as they used to when there were many more of them.

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First I believe that due to all the discounts more people that normally would not come to Disney are going and they are not as responsible.

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That statement implies that poor people (who wouldn't go to WDW without discounts) are slobs while people with more money (who can afford WDW without discounts) are more responsible and clean. I hope that was just a misphrasing, because it is certainly not true.

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WillCAD Community Rank: Scout Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Baltimore, MD USA Posts: 4,068	Re: Epcot: Red-headed step-child? MichelleC, thanks for the complimets. I have indeed thought of sending those sentiments to WDW management, but haven't gotten around to it. When I do, I think I'll probably send them by snail mail directly to the office of the president of WDW, whose name I think is Al Wiess. Goofy62, I think you should re-read your post; there are a few things in it that don't make sense to me, and I think maybe you just didn't express your feelings acurately. Remember that people pitch garbage on the ground everywhere. In the past, WDW had a huge army of CMs whose job it was to police the grounds and keep them squeaky clean. In the past few years, that army of custodial CMs has been reduced greatly in number, making it impossible for those who remain to keep up with the volume of garbage hitting the ground on a daily basis. It's not that there are more sloppy Guests these days, it's just that there are fewer custodial CMs to clean up the place. While I agree that throwing trash on the ground instead of walking the 30 feet to the next trash can is a sign of a sloppy, rude, careless, and unthinking Guest, I don't agree that it's entirely the Guests' problem. There are CMs who are employed specifically to keep the grounds clean, and it is thier responsibility to pick up after the rude Guests. However, since thier ranks have been decimated by recent cutbacks, they are simply overwhelmed and can't possibly do the job as well as they used to when there were many more of them. [ QUOTE ] First I believe that due to all the discounts more people that normally would not come to Disney are going and they are not as responsible. [/ QUOTE ] That statement implies that poor people (who wouldn't go to WDW without discounts) are slobs while people with more money (who can afford WDW without discounts) are more responsible and clean. I hope that was just a misphrasing, because it is certainly not true.