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[tboutwell]

Originally Posted by KatMark

Rumor has it that that might not be the case this year. There is a good chance that only the current World Showcase restaurants listed and current resort establishments will be included. Coronado's food court, restaurant, World Showcase restaurants owned by outside vendors are not planning on signing up because they are losing too much money. I know this happened every year, but there has been a lot of talk that this year it will be a reality.

In a way it sounds like the restraurants not belonging to Disney have a no win situation. If these places decide not to sign up, wouldn't the ball be back in Disney's court and they could potentially not renew their leases when they are up? Additionally wouldn't they potentially lose even more money by having less traffic because they are not on the plan? It makes me wonder why they would go in to that situation.

[KatMark]

Originally Posted by tboutwell

In a way it sounds like the restraurants not belonging to Disney have a no win situation. If these places decide not to sign up, wouldn't the ball be back in Disney's court and they could potentially not renew their leases when they are up? Additionally wouldn't they potentially lose even more money by having less traffic because they are not on the plan? It makes me wonder why they would go in to that situation.

I asked myself the same thing. I think they will lose more business as more people sign up for the dining plan and the places that are on it will be even more crowded. There will be major problems trying to get ADR's. Can you imagine how hard it will be to get an ADR at LeCellier if those other restaurants don't sign up.? It's hard enough now!!!!!!!!!!

I know a lot of people have said they will change their reservation away from the Coronado if they don't participate. It won't bother us as we only eat one or two meals there every trip and we have a car so we can always go to one of the other resorts or eat at the parks--it is no big deal to us (not worth leaving the CSR where we are so happy).

[wheatenwalker]

I would think though if you couldnt grab breakfast at the hotel or a snack after a day in the parks, it would make the dining plan less attractive , or the resort less desirable- I hope that itisnt true about CSR since its a great resort!

[Pax]

It's definitely a problem that lacks an easy solution; either way, a restaurant oculd be doomed.

On the one hand - not being part of the DDP program means you won't see as much business anymore, nwo that those DDPs are so popular. Less business = less revenue.

On the other hand - if the payments they receive from the DDP program, per credit, don't cover their costs for the meal? They just LOST money. And remember, "costs" is more than "cost of ingredients", it's also the salary of the cook(s), server(s), dishwasher(s), and so forth ... all the way down to the guy who cleans out the toilet bowls, and all the way up to the General Manager of that restaurant.

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I think in the future, we may see some restaurants providing DDP guests with a menu that indicates certain items as being excluded from the DDP. Really, it's the only "compromise" that addresses BOTH problems: it keeps DDP guests coming, BUT, it avoids any one DDP meal from losing them money.

[TraD4Disney]

That makes sense. When we went to Planet Hollywood in February they limited our dessert options.

[sfacowgirl87]

Yea! I was confused when I first read that! We went this year with the Deluxe Plan and our appetizers WERE included. Is that the same with the 2009?

[Pax]

The Deluxe plan still includes appetiser and dessert.

The Basic plan no longer includes the Appetiser, but still includes the dessert. (IMO, if Disney is smart ... next year they'll change the Basic plan to give you a choice of appetiser OR dessert.)

[BuckyGirl]

Originally Posted by Pax

The Deluxe plan still includes appetiser and dessert.

The Basic plan no longer includes the Appetiser, but still includes the dessert. (IMO, if Disney is smart ... next year they'll change the Basic plan to give you a choice of appetiser OR dessert.)

Good to know, the last time we went in 2007 we got both. And I didn't know gratuity is separate anymore. We have the $200 Disney GC from the promo which we were going to use for food, but now we are thinking of getting the basic dining plan, as it would still be a good choice. (I prefer not to look @ food prices when on vacation LOL). If we went out of pocket, I Think we would spend more, both of us did separate food budges with out the dining plan, and mine ranged from $280-$399. His was around $325 and with the basic dining plan, it would be $280 each. so it's basically a wash (with the luxury of thinking "I really want this, but it's $5 more than this" type thinking...

[amyngary]

We're going in Feb. 2009. I called the other day to make some ADR changes. While doing so, the nice person helping me explained that all the same restaurants will be on the 2009 plan, "it just takes a little longer to get everything worked out". So, while I wouldn't call it official, I think we're fine to plan on the list being expanded again.

My first post here, so I'm sure I'll make a mess of it, but I wanted to share the info.

[Wendyismyname]

Originally Posted by amyngary

We're going in Feb. 2009. I called the other day to make some ADR changes. While doing so, the nice person helping me explained that all the same restaurants will be on the 2009 plan, "it just takes a little longer to get everything worked out". So, while I wouldn't call it official, I think we're fine to plan on the list being expanded again.

My first post here, so I'm sure I'll make a mess of it, but I wanted to share the info.

Glad to have you and you brought good news too!!

[Stripes]

2009 Dining Plan Brochure - includes Plan options and locations. This is a PDF file.

[jimmymac]

Thanks for the update

[Gembley]

thanks for all the great info, we got the BDP with our package so its good to know that (hopefully) all the participating restaurants will be the same

[Trinity's Nina]

I'm getting the Deluxe - only because I'm doing aLOT of 2 Table-Svc meals I think me & DGD will be pooped and need the fun/rest of a "sit-down" - especially with the Characters!

[dzlovesdisney]

This is very helpful. Thank you!