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Old 10-05-2010, 05:59 PM   #1 (permalink)
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Read that they'll be announcing 2012 info. sometime around 10/18, anyone else hear this?
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Yes, a lot of us travel agents will be attending a webinar on 10/18 about the Disney Fantasy
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I can't wait to hear the news. The rumor I have heard is Eastern Mediterranean cruises.
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I can't wait either. Thanks for posting the rumor! I have been checking almost daily for weeks!
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This is all the info I got when I asked about a new cruise ship since we're planning one in 2012 and I didn't know what book to get:

"The Disney Fantasy is expected in late 2012. We'll probably know within another week or so just what the 2012 cruise schedule will look like. If you want to jump right on those bookings (possibly available a few weeks or more from now), then you'll have to depend on the current (2010) edition. There's a lot of info in there about the Dream, and since they're sister-ships, much of what we cover should apply to the Fantasy, too. If you wait for the 2011 edition there will be, of course, a whole lot more info, but you may miss the best prices on the 2012 itineraries."
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I can't wait to hear the news. The rumor I have heard is Eastern Mediterranean cruises.
I just completed a DCL post-cruise survey and they were asking about eastern med cruises as well as some others. We're hopeful to see cruises that include Greece! But I'm assuming it'll be the Magic and not the Fantasy doing those cruises, since the Fantasy will be sailing out of Florida for a few years.
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OK so someone on another forum found a site that let you see which cruises were scheduled to be in which ports and when. According to them (from http://portscedules.com) the Disney Fantasy will be in the Caribbean next summer well at least in the Caymen Islands. If you search for it on the Caymen Islands page it comes up as being there every other week. This would suggest that the Fantasy is taking over the Magic schedules with the likelihood being the Magic going back to Europe and possibly doing the Eastern Med cruises.
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Thanks for sharing that! The Fantasy is scheduled to visit Grand Cayman starting March 30, 2012. It'll be visiting on alternate Mondays through December 24. The Magic has been on an alternate Tuesdays schedule.

The Magic's scheduled to visit Grand Cayman on April 3, 2012 (a week after the Fantasy's first visit). After that, the Magic takes a break from Grand Cayman until Sept. 25, 2012, when it resumes bi-weekly visits through December 18. Then, it returns six days later on December 24 (special holiday itinerary, no doubt - both the Magic and Fantasy will be there Christmas Eve!).

Now, let's move to Sint Maarten (Eastern Caribbean) The Fantasy's first visit there is Monday, March 26, 2012, The Magic will be there on Tuesday, March 27, 2010. After that, the Fantasy starts visiting on Tuesdays and the Magic doesn't visit again for the rest of the year.

A red flag pops up, because the Fantasy is scheduled to be in Grand Cayman four days after Sint Maarten (March 26 and 30). This is not possible on the traditional schedule, so something else is going on. Even if the Fantasy went directly from Sint Maarten back to Port Canaveral, there's not time to then get over to Grand Cayman on that schedule. So, assume it will not return to Port Canaveral before it heads to Grand Cayman. Some sort of grand Eastern/Western extended inaugural itinerary?

So... Where will the Magic be in fall 2012 when it's not visiting Grand Cayman? It'll be either a 7-night or 14-night itinerary, since it's back in Grand Cayman every 14 days. I'm still searching around to see if it pops up at any other ports (many don't report their schedules this far in advance). The same is true for summer 2012 - I haven't been able to find a port in Europe that shows it on its schedule (so far, none have had schedules going that far into the future), but I'm still looking.

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Confusing, but thanks for the updates!
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Thanks for sharing that! The Fantasy is scheduled to visit Grand Cayman starting March 30, 2012. It'll be visiting on alternate Mondays through December 24. The Magic has been on an alternate Tuesdays schedule.

The Magic's scheduled to visit Grand Cayman on April 3, 2012 (a week after the Fantasy's first visit). After that, the Magic takes a break from Grand Cayman until Sept. 25, 2012, when it resumes bi-weekly visits through December 18. Then, it returns six days later on December 24 (special holiday itinerary, no doubt - both the Magic and Fantasy will be there Christmas Eve!).

Now, let's move to Sint Maarten (Eastern Caribbean) The Fantasy's first visit there is Monday, March 26, 2012, The Magic will be there on Tuesday, March 27, 2010. After that, the Fantasy starts visiting on Tuesdays and the Magic doesn't visit again for the rest of the year.

A red flag pops up, because the Fantasy is scheduled to be in Grand Cayman four days after Sint Maarten (March 26 and 30). This is not possible on the traditional schedule, so something else is going on. Even if the Fantasy went directly from Sint Maarten back to Port Canaveral, there's not time to then get over to Grand Cayman on that schedule. So, assume it will not return to Port Canaveral before it heads to Grand Cayman. Some sort of grand Eastern/Western extended inaugural itinerary?

So... Where will the Magic be in fall 2012 when it's not visiting Grand Cayman? It'll be either a 7-night or 14-night itinerary, since it's back in Grand Cayman every 14 days. I'm still searching around to see if it pops up at any other ports (many don't report their schedules this far in advance). The same is true for summer 2012 - I haven't been able to find a port in Europe that shows it on its schedule (so far, none have had schedules going that far into the future), but I'm still looking.

Life gets more interesting between now and the 18th, when the TAs get their briefing!

Wow, quite a lot of detective work going on! I have this image, Dave, of you with a giant, wall-sized world map, and red pins with dates attached, tracking the ships' movements around the globe!

Looking forward to hearing the 2012 itineraries! Only a few more days to wait now!
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Since seeing the info popping up, I've spent hours scouring every port authority site I could find. Here's what I saw, which adds some new info regarding Key West and 2013 info to what's posted above.

The Magic seems to continue regular East/West cruises in January 2012, after the holiday cruise ends on 1/7/12, with
Western Cruises 1/7/12 (though not currently showing Key West stop on 1/8/12), 1/21/12, 2/4/12, 2/18/12, 3/3/12, 3/17/12, 3/31/12
Eastern Cruises - 1/14/12, 1/28/12, 2/11/12, 2/25/12, 3/10/12
The Fantasy is showing with stops in St. Maarten on 3/26/12 and Cayman on 3/30/12 as noted above, and again in St. Maarten on 4/9/12. There is a Key West stop indicated on 4/15/12, but the ship is not identified. I assume it's the Magic, as the Fantasy is due in Cayman on 4/16/12 (next day). There is one last misc. Key West stop listed on 05/01/12, which I again assume is the Magic, since the Fantasy is in Cayman on 4/30/12 (day before.)
The Fantasy seems to start on regular East/West rotations the week including 4/16/12, since it starts alternating Cayman on Monday 4/16/12, and St. Maarten on Tuesday 4/24/12 continuing through 1/1/2013.
There are no Cayman stops for the Fantasy listed for 2013, though it does continue the St. Maarten stops on alternate weeks 1/1/13 - 4/23/13.
The Magic returns to Cayman on 9/25/12, and continues to stop there on alternate tuesdays through 12/18/12. The Magic and Fantasy are both in Cayman on 12/24/12. The Magic resumes its alternate Tuesday stops in Cayman on 1/15/13 and continues on through 4/23/13.
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