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With the new plan in place, we then headed to where else but Fantasyland. First up was peter Pan with the FP I had gotten when I made all our other FP at 60 days out. As usual, Small World followed Peter Pan then we went to Philharmagic. I think Abby wanted to see what the line was like for the 7 Dwarves after as we headed to Storybook Circus next. The Dwarves location was moved inside the circus tent so all we could see was the line but it extended pretty far away from the tent. We then went inside the gift shop to see the party exclusive merchandise. Abby got a t-shirt and a pin and I liked the light up ornament - that will go on our Christmas tree of course (I don't decorate for Halloween). When we came out of the gift shop, we saw the Barnstormer was only at a 10 minute wait so Abby and I rode that, then she wanted to go to Tomorrowland. The Speedway also had a 10 minute wait so Abby and I got in line for that too. Lenny doesn't even attempt this one now after his one and only time on it. After the Speedway, we went to Buzz which had a 15 minutes wait posted. As we got in line, we saw three people trying to get in their costumes - inflatable t-rex costumes. Once they were on and inflated, it was so funny to see them. Unfortunately my camera was never ready to snap a picture of them whenever I saw them and by the time it was they were either out of my view or so surrounded by people I couldn't get a good picture. It was around 6:30 when we left Buzz so we hit some treat trails waiting for it to be 7. At 7, the dance party in Tomorrowland started and Abby spent a few minutes there but after Mike and Sulley came out, she wanted to go to the Storybook Circus dance party. While she was under the tent where this one took place (where the Dwarves use to meet) Lenny "decorated" his scooter canopy with some battery operated lights we brought with us.
When Abby was done with the dance party - again only a few minutes into it - and the scooter had its lights, Abby wanted to do some more treat trails. About 8 she wanted to head to Main St. for the stage show but it was pretty jam packed already and there didn't seem to be any good place to stop - especially since when the show would end, it would be time to get parade spots. With the party being sold out and the crowds we saw on Main St. I didn't see that as being a realistic expectation. What we ultimately ended up doing was going right to Liberty Square. It was only 8:06 but we got "our" spots for the parade. We asked Lenny if he minded waiting. He didn't so we left him and the wheelchair behind the rope while Abby and I hit a few treat trails. We went back to Lenny about 8:40 - my left foot and right hip were killing me and I needed to sit down. The parade spots were all filling in but the wheelchair section wasn't too bad. That was until the CM kept putting more and more people into it. She had told us she was going to try and squeeze in as many people as she could but it got to the point she needed to stop.
Just a few minutes before parade time, I thought I'd be nice. I folded up the wheelchair, made Lenny move forward on the scooter so I could park it behind him and I would stand on his left for the parade so the CM could fit one more family in the section. This family did NOT have anyone in a wheelchair so they should not have been put in the section to begin with and then they were miserable pretty much the whole time. First of all, the CM told them quite clearly as she put them to my left "all these people have been waiting here for an hour. They get to be in the front at the rope and you have to stay behind them." That was a problem because one of the kids HAD to sit so the CM let the kid sit on the ground between Lenny and the scooter on his right. This wasn't good enough as the kid wasn't with the family and they couldn't see the kid sitting there for her reactions to the parade. It wasn't a young kid - it if had been, I would have moved. I'm glad I didn't though because nothing made them happy. There wasn't enough room in the section for all of us so one person from that last family stood up on the wall and when repeatedly told by a CM he couldn't do that, he was really rude. Then the mother tried to film the parade and then complained she couldn't get any good view because she was "so far back." If anyone had a right to complain, it certainly wasn't them We were all squished in and I had more to complain about. I ended up having to sit on the ground because I couldn't stand anymore and the CM had taken the wheelchair away to park it elsewhere. All of this in a spot we got over an hour before the parade. NOT 5 minutes.
I don't really blame the CM. IMO she was a sweetheart. She kept walking by and talking to us, making sure we were okay, asking if we needed anything (although I don't know what she would have done if we did say we needed something). I think she was doing what she was told to do so I wasn't going to make it hard on her - unlike some people (that last family if I have to be specific).
I liked the parade but I didn't get any good shots of anything except the sign at the very beginning.
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I would have been willing to watch the second parade too but I was outvoted on that one. When the parade was over, the CM asked if we were going to see the stage show. We told her we were so she told us after the bridge to Main St. get over to the left and we would be shown the wheelchair viewing area for the stage show and we could watch the fireworks from there too. It took a few minutes to do it but we finally got there and unlike the parade, we were not packed in like sardines. We were nice and close to the stage too which was cool. As we waited for the fireworks - which would be done first - we talked with the people in front of us. They told us how they waited in line for the Tweedles for 2 hours and before it was their turn, the Tweedles left and they didn't get to see them. They also told us how they wanted one of the party snacks and actually waited in line for an hour to get it - but it wasn't worth the hour wait. I felt bad for them but it's what Disney has made it. It was a sold out party with 20,000 people (the number we heard several people mention), not enough snacks locations open, no "clones" of character (what CM's were saying - "we need to learn how to clone the characters") and not enough areas for people to spread out into.
After a while, we stopped talking with them and everyone went back to their own conversations. When the fireworks started for me it was kind of a weird view because we were so close. Some of the fireworks went off behind the castle and we didn't see much of them and others, like to the side, we saw the full burst. I didn't realize until we came home and saw some online videos how far to the side the fireworks went. I enjoyed them regardless. After the fireworks were over, we stayed in the wheelchair viewing area for the stage show that would be at 10:45. Being that close for the stage show was really cool. I liked how close we were and that we still had "elbow" room to watch it with. I have yet to see all of the "Hocus Pocus" movie but I've seen enough to know the characters on stage did a good job. I found it interesting too that some of the characters that are in the show are slightly different than when they have a M&G (Captain Hook and Jafar for instance are face characters in the show).
When the stage show was over, it was something like 11:10 - really close to the second parade. Main St. was still really packed and maybe at that point in time we should have left but we didn't. We made our way through the crowd to go to the Cheshire Cafe for the restrooms. As we waited for Lenny to come out, the Queen of Hearts and the Tweedles walked by. Of course the picture came out blurry but we did see them.
When Lenny came out of the bathroom, Abby wanted to check out the lighting effects at the Tea Cups. I don't think there was any line for it and I know when we rode there were quite a few empty tea cups. Lenny tried to film it the best he could but he seemed to have trouble keeping track of us.
After we got off the ride, we didn't have nearly enough candy already so we went to Cosmic Rays next for the treat trail. When we left the restaurant, Abby noticed the Speedway was still a 10 minute wait and wanted to ride again. I think it was a little bit longer because it was getting late and the CM's were trying to shut down one of the two lanes that were open. Lenny once again chose not to ride and just waited for us. Once off the ride, Abby wanted to hit the Monsters Inc treat trail one last time before leaving the park. It was just about midnight and we were all tired.
On the way out of the park, we took a couple last photos and had the one Photopass photo taken that we really wanted (the Headless Horseman).
When we arrived at the ferry dock, CM's were letting people know that it was going to be about 20 minutes before the ferry would arrive. This didn't make any of us happy but I didn't feel like dealing with the buses or the monorail so we just continued to the dock. It made Abby really unhappy and she started to have a meltdown. "I told you I didn't want to come to this party It's stupid. The characters had such long lines that we couldn't see them." I totally agreed with her about the characters but I think up until needing to wait for the ferry, Abby did have a good time. Hoping it would help, I had Abby sit in the wheelchair we were allowed to take to the parking lot. After a few minutes, like switch had been flipped, Abby was fine and telling me her ideas to improve MNSSHP (which she is going to share after this TR). She was fine all the way to the hotel - which we finally got back to about 1 am - and after she helped put the scooter together, she was going to start with another meltdown. I handed her some of our stuff and sent her ahead to the room. I made sure the car was completely cleaned out before Lenny and I headed to the room ourselves.
Abby was already in bed by the time we got there even though it had been maybe 10 minutes at the most. I don't think we did any organizing when we got to the room. I think we just dumped the stuff on the table to deal with later on. Somewhere between 1:30 and 2 we went to bed.
Wow! that was a long night! But it seems, for the most part that you had a good time at the party. I find that the parades are one of the most stressful things at MK! The crowding, the waiting and then, of course the last minute push from folks who think they are entitled to be up front.
The Headless Horseman shots are very cool!
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Cool! Love the Headless Horseman shots! Very neat!
Sounds like a looooong day, but still fun. I am interested on what Abby thinks Disney can do to improve the parties. I agree with her, there is definite things they can do. You should send her ideas to the Parks department of Disney.
Sorry it was so crowded at the Halloween party and the lines were so long. It was the same way when we went on Sept. 9th. In fact, we're thinking of skipping it on our next trip. We've gone ever since they started having it but the crowds have gotten to be too much. It wasn't bad during our trips to the parks, just at the Halloween party.