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Old 01-06-2015, 09:04 AM   #1
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Any Truth to this?

I tend to believe I am pretty crafty and I belong to a few "crafty" groups on Facebook, and it was recently brought up when someone posted Disney tees that she created and made for her family that Disney CM's are asking guests to remove those type of shirts while visiting the parks???? Of course, there were MANY different comments - varying from someone being there last week and CM's commenting on how great their shirts were.............then there were comments that entire families were asked by CM's to either remove their handmade shirts or turn them inside out???

I personally think this is NUTS.............but before I go creating a bunch of tees for my daughter's 16th birthday trip, I want to make sure we will be all good. We have made many tees in the past and never had an issue.............as a matter of fact on a girls trip our tees brought attention to a CM and we were asked to participate in the AK parade!
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Recently trained CM's may have been instructed to do this in an informal attempt to crack down on unauthorized use of Disney's and the Winnie the Pooh publisher's copyrighted images. There's probably a booming cottage industry making and selling shirts with Disney images acquired from "entertainment-only" websites.

Even though someone only makes such shirts for their family, that IS unauthorized use of copyrighted images, doubly so if the images are Winnie the Pooh characters since Disney has limited authorization by the Milne books publisher to use the characters.
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Disney is known for defending their copyrighted material. By law, if they fail to do so, they could lose the rights and the characters would end up in the public domain. Safest way to comply with the legalities and still have custom tees is to go to the Disney Store website and use their personalization feature. Many, many character images to choose from and you'll know they are legal and above board. There is also a custom tee shop in DTD, but they didn't have the size I needed for my son on our last trip.
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Good suggestion, yalibrarian.

Incidentally, creating your own signature or avatar image from these unofficial clipart sites for use on message boards is also illegal.

Their disclaimers that the site's images are "for entertainment only" do not legally permit anything but looking at the site and being entertained by the images you see. Using any as clipart is a definite violation of Disney's copyright even though plenty of people do it.
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Thank you for your input! I understand the licensing issues. My thought was to make some tees with my Cricut - which I own the Disney cartridges, therefore I don't understand why that part would be an issues when they sell them to be able to "make" things with? I would love to hear input from a CM?
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I would like to know as well but don't know who to talk to at Disney maybe. I know that so many of the PP folks make special shirts.
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Okay, then your use of the cartridges is fine as you're aware, because you aren't making things to sell but only making shirts for your family and guests.

I don't know. As you say, when Disney-authorized craft products are sold, it seems strange that someone using such a product in permissible ways would be told not to wear what they'd made.

I'm wondering if the posts you saw were "best friend said her cousin's next-door neighbor had this happen" type. Like that old game Gossip or Telephone as it's also called, it eventually became an urban legend that people have been told to remove homemade shirts.

When there hasn't been any restriction, it would be peculiar for one suddenly to be imposed, particularly one so closely resembling how school dress code violations are often dealt with. That's what makes me wonder if this isn't just a rumor.
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I agree that this is probably a rumor. If it were true, DCL would be stripping the cabin doors of magnets, too! As you say, Disney authorizes the Cricut cartridges. What are you supposed to do with them if not things like this?
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I wonder if perhaps Disney is attempting to crack down on people purchasing (and wearing) "unauthorized" items that others have made. Because it is unclear what is purchased and what's not, they may be fighting any unauthorized images.

If you make something using an official Disney image that Disney has sold for individual use, you should be fine.

If you draw a figure that looks similar to an official Disney image, or pick up an official image from a site that is not authorized for use (for example, take a screenshot from a Disney marketing site and use it to make a T-shirt), that could be a problem.

If I take a Mickey Mouse sticker that I received at Walt Disney World and put it on my shirt, I'm fine. If I take a blank shirt, draw a picture of Mickey that looks like the sticker, and label it "Hello Mickey!" I am violating Disney's copyright. If I simply draw a smiling child and put the same message, I am fine.

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I'm just skeptical that CM's are actually telling guests to do this now that I think about it more. They usually are very nonconfrontational and won't confront a guest about anything unlikely to result in harm to someone.

For instance, on one trip I was surprised to see an elderly woman wearing a Cinderella dress in the MK, knowing as I did that adults are not allowed to wear anything closely resembling character costumes except at the Halloween party. The dress appeared to be a Disney costume and not homemade.

I saw this woman various places over several hours that afternoon. If CM's were inclined to forbid people wearing homecrafted shirts, one surely would have insisted the woman change out of the costume since no full costumes on anyone over 12 is stated policy.

That's another reason why I suspect after thinking more about this that it's only a rumor. It isn't at all usual for CM's to be that concerned about people wearing homemade shirts with Disney images. As Lisa said, people have been doing it for years.
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For the past 4 or 5 years I've been making shirts for Abby and we've never had a problem. More often than not, she's actually been complimented by CM's on her shirts and how unique they are. Some I've even made with CM autographs. This past trip, we had one with Anna and Elsa, another with Olaf, one with everyone from Frozen (except Hans ) and one with Ralph and Vanellope. I do leave the copyright Disney logo on it (not that you can really see them unless you're up close) and only Abby is wearing the shirts, not all of us so that could be part of it. The other part could be a bunch of bull and it's not really happening.
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I would like to know as well but don't know who to talk to at Disney maybe. I know that so many of the PP folks make special shirts.
I know - that's why I have come here to ask - it seems interersting and would love to hear from a CM that might have some input?


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Okay, then your use of the cartridges is fine as you're aware, because you aren't making things to sell but only making shirts for your family and guests.

I don't know. As you say, when Disney-authorized craft products are sold, it seems strange that someone using such a product in permissible ways would be told not to wear what they'd made.

I'm wondering if the posts you saw were "best friend said her cousin's next-door neighbor had this happen" type. Like that old game Gossip or Telephone as it's also called, it eventually became an urban legend that people have been told to remove homemade shirts.

When there hasn't been any restriction, it would be peculiar for one suddenly to be imposed, particularly one so closely resembling how school dress code violations are often dealt with. That's what makes me wonder if this isn't just a rumor.
This was a facebook group for cricut users - and the poor girl was just showing off what she had made for her family when someone chimmed in stating that they were asked to turn their "handmade" shirts inside out and then several other people commented back and forth stating both that they had no issue, and also that some had issues We personally usually have some sort of self designed garment and have never had an issue.


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I agree that this is probably a rumor. If it were true, DCL would be stripping the cabin doors of magnets, too! As you say, Disney authorizes the Cricut cartridges. What are you supposed to do with them if not things like this?
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I wonder if perhaps Disney is attempting to crack down on people purchasing (and wearing) "unauthorized" items that others have made. Because it is unclear what is purchased and what's not, they may be fighting any unauthorized images.

If you make something using an official Disney image that Disney has sold for individual use, you should be fine.

If you draw a figure that looks similar to an official Disney image, or pick up an official image from a site that is not authorized for use (for example, take a screenshot from a Disney marketing site and use it to make a T-shirt), that could be a problem.

If I take a Mickey Mouse sticker that I received at Walt Disney World and put it on my shirt, I'm fine. If I take a blank shirt, draw a picture of Mickey that looks like the sticker, and label it "Hello Mickey!" I am violating Disney's copyright. If I simply draw a smiling child and put the same message, I am fine.

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For the past 4 or 5 years I've been making shirts for Abby and we've never had a problem. More often than not, she's actually been complimented by CM's on her shirts and how unique they are. Some I've even made with CM autographs. This past trip, we had one with Anna and Elsa, another with Olaf, one with everyone from Frozen (except Hans ) and one with Ralph and Vanellope. I do leave the copyright Disney logo on it (not that you can really see them unless you're up close) and only Abby is wearing the shirts, not all of us so that could be part of it. The other part could be a bunch of bull and it's not really happening.
I know you have been making them for Abby for years, as we have for our own family - it would be a shame if that was taken away from the kids
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This was a facebook group for cricut users - and the poor girl was just showing off what she had made for her family when someone chimmed in stating that they were asked to turn their "handmade" shirts inside out and then several other people commented back and forth stating both that they had no issue, and also that some had issues We personally usually have some sort of self designed garment and have never had an issue. (
My guess is that the shirts had some content that was "un-Disney". I've heard of people being asked to do the same with inappropriate slogans on their shirts. It just doesn't make sense for CMs to be policing copyright issues. They don't have the knowledge to do so, unless it's an obvious infringement. I once saw a photo of a t-shirt showing Mickey in a tight speedo--- um, NO, not for the parks!
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Well, there's also the possibility that some CM's were dozing off during a training session and thought that they were supposed to prevent people wearing ANY homemade shirts. Training sessions generally last far too long and throw way too much info at people. It's very likely for such misunderstandings to occur.

We've also some of us encountered CM's who were wrong about other Disney policies or heard from PassPorters who knew there had to be something fishy with what they were told by a CM. CM's are fallible humans.

I don't know how Cricut designs are done. Is there anything like what Darlene said appears on the designs she's used indicating it's an authorized image? You should be covered if questioned by a CM. Anyway, if that occurred, I'd insist upon speaking to a manager when you're reasonably certain your use of the design doesn't violate licensing restraints.
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