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Old 06-18-2016, 11:36 AM   #16
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Perhaps, Disney can blockade the water with full sized bulletin boards with complete warnings (only kidding).

I thought the signs were pretty good
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Old 06-18-2016, 12:25 PM   #17
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The bigger issue is not Disney and what they can and cannot do (or should and should not do). It is that they cannot control every guest. What they need to do is make it unpleasant for guests who violate rules. Make it clear animals are not to be fed and then fine anyone who does it. While some animals, alligators and bears come to mind. learn to associate people with food and can become dangerous, it is never a good idea to feed wildlife. Even feeding birds/ducks is not good. They need to eat what nature intended them to eat, not popcorn, donuts and bread.

Let it be known that violating the rules will result in a fine and possible expulsion from the resort.
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My friend lives in inland Fla., south of Orlando, on a lake. They have a dock and a fortress-like deck to help keep aligators out of their yard, away from their dogs. So far it has worked but they are careful on the canals and in the lake cause they say gators and big snakes are everywhere. I was kind of lazy about it because I am from Ohio but not once I saw how cautious they were.

Also I used to swim in Bay Lake back in the 70's before they closed it due to bacteria.

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The writing in other languages because you know that's what next. Disney will have the signs and someone will say they cannot read English to understand what it is saying.
Good "pictures" solve many language problems.

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I just got home from a trip and a few days ago we were eating at Ohana and could see the fence going up. It's definitely not to keep alligators away, I think it is more to keep people out of the water. The fence just consisted of 4x4 posts with ropes through them. An alligator could still get on the shore (even though that isn't what happened) and people could still definitely get in the water, but after this incident I don't think anyone will be doing that anyways! The 'fence' isn't anything that would impede anyone's vision of the light parade or fireworks.
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Interesting that Disney is being so PC in the face of all this but not really doing much IMHO to remove the gators...more or less limiting our contact with them. While I know it is unfeasible to remove them completely from Disney property perhaps just lessening the spaces in which they find the most comfort/breed in and around. The first thing that comes to mind is cleaning up the former Discovery Island and River Country. I have heard from many CMs that they are hot beds for wildlife activity. Not saying Disney needs to utilize the land as an attraction again but at least do not leave it in disrepair. Just because they do not allow guests onto the areas do jot mean the gators are not breeding there.

IMHO I would look into what has changed recently at Disney to cause the sightings of gators to increase so. Are cost cutting causing them not to be relocated as quickly, has the ongoing building in & around the lagoon altered their habitat bringing them into closer proximity to humans? If yes, are the fact that people are closer to them more regularly causing the gators to be more aggressive and less apt to be afraid of humans? I think changes need to occur but removing Tick Tock Croc & Louis from the public eye isn't going to fix the problem.

Also - this tragic incident could have occurred anywhere in FL or the south for that matter where the public comes into contact with wildlife. Billions of people have come to Disney safely over the years. I do not think a knee jerk reaction benefits anybody except perhaps future liability. It cannot give Lane back to his parents. Finally, I believe education is key. Making sure guests realize dangers exist and that they are greater at night should help. I do know many times while riding on Disney water craft transportation that gators are pointed out and the dangers associated with them.
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